Link to the 'Press Release' Put Out About @PropOrNot in Response to Widespread Condemnation Across the Political Landscape from Rolling Stone to Zerohedge
— Deep State Analysis (@Official_DSA) December 1, 2016
Sue the Bastards: US News Reports some Alt-Media Have Had Enough and Want to See @PropOrNot's Anonymous Ukro-Trolls and Contributors in Court
What is clear however, is that should the increasingly organized and apparently centrally planned push against 'Russian propaganda' continue to smear Americans who've never taken a kopek in Russian funding from the Kremlin or Moscow's corporations, simply because they disagree with U.S. foreign policy, there is bound to be pushback. Including private and journalistic investigations into whether some of the individuals whose 'work' was cited by @PropOrNot (but who have disavowed working with it under online scrutiny), including Andrew Weisburd and ex-US Army officer Joel Harding, have ties of their own to foreign governments targeting free speech by Americans, especially the regime in Kiev.
While both Weisburd and Harding deny being anything other than private citizens and self-appointed witch hunters of Kremlin trolls (with Harding facing amateur sleuths digging into his announced contacts with @PropOrNot), it would be interesting to see them -- or employees of the FPRI -- denying under cross examination in libel court receiving payment or instructions from the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington. Or in Weisburd's case, watching him in the dock denying knowing any 'ex' intelligence officers from a small country in the southeastern Mediterranean known for aggressively spying on American soil...
Joel Harding: Ex-US Army Pathological Liar and Water Carrier for Kiev's SBU Thugs
— PropOrNot ID Service (@propornot) November 6, 2016
— Joel Harding (@Joel_Harding) November 28, 2016
Above: An example of lowdown dirty psyops use of Orwellian doublethink. How's it that Russian influence operations suck so badly, yet they're reaching 15 MILLION AMERICANS, and according to Joel Harding's buddy Andrew Weisburd writing for War on the Rocks, helped put Donald Trump into the White House? You idiots can't seriously have it both ways!
The above quote, claiming 'nobody' is attacking the methodology of @PropOrNot, which among other sites has laughably labeled the world beating news aggregator The Drudge Report a conduit for 'Kremlin disinformation' reaching '15 million Americans' (a number @PropOrNot appears to have pulled out of their rear ends and which Harding makes no effort to substantiate) is typical @Joel_Harding.
What kind of idiot after all, unless they know nothing about American politics because they're running their site 'outing' Putin's alleged American minions from Kyiv, thinks Matt Drudge is pro-Putin on the basis of articles Drudge links to which are mostly about 'scary Russian military moves/preparations for nuclear war' published in the UK Daily Mail? Unless of course, as we speculated in our first article about who or what is behind @PropOrNot, these particular Ukro-trolls' enemies lists happen to overlap with those of George Soros and Media Matters...
Whether or not Harding threatened pro-Donbass rebel American journalist GH Eliason with arrest and torture by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) -- a claim Harding denies -- Harding either cannot keep his facts straight or is a pathological liar. While complaining about 'Russian fakes' and alleged Russian disinformation targeting the U.S. presidential election, you never hear from Mr. Harding -- who has boasted of trying to shape Ukraine's information war strategy as an unpaid, informal adviser -- about Kiev's own active measures targeting Donald J. Trump's campaign in the Soviet tradition of dezinformatsiya, which many KGB officers of Ukrainian origin participated in (a fact, along with Soviet bosses Nikita Khrushchev and Leonid Brezhnev's Ukrainian origins, which always gets left out of the 'story' told by Kiev's propaganda):
New York Times Promoted Ukrainian Active Measures Against the Trump Campaign:
The Blindly Accepted as Authentic 'Manafort' Payments List from the SBU
For example, The New York Times accepting without question in August the authenticity of handwritten documents supposedly found by the SBU implicating former Yanukovych and Trump campaign aide Paul Manafort in receiving $12 million in illicit oligarch cash. Manafort denies the payments and there's little evidence the NYT bothered to check the veracity of the scrawled notes with any other source. The story did not significantly effect the outcome of the election -- by that point Trump had decided to change campaign managers from Manafort to Breitbart News chief Steve Bannon -- but the damage to Trump's candidacy was done from a foreign government source. It's interesting to note that the SBU only bothered to produce the alleged $12 million payments note AFTER Trump earned the GOP nomination, not during the Republican Party primaries when he was competing with less 'Russia friendly' candidates such as Florida Sen. Marco Rubio or prior to Trump's statements about possibly recognizing Crimea as Russian territory.
The SBU's history of fakes and frauds, starting with its hopelessly botched 'investigation' if not deliberate coverup of the false flag Maidan sniper killings, which targeted Berkut riot policeman and anti-Yanukovych activists alike from buildings controlled by Andre Parubiy's 'Maidan Self-Defense' thugs, simply wasn't considered relevant to the Old Grey (Whore) Lady newspaper. Neither was the U.S.-backed Kiev regime's total failure to successfully try and convict a single perpetrator for arson, rioting and mass murder in connection with the massacre of anti-Maidan activists in Odessa on May 2, 2014. So much for 'European values' and the 'rule of law' in post-Maidan Ukraine. As for the NYT, they could care less about proving whether some old scrawled note produced by the known liars of the SBU is real. They had an axe to grind against Trump by linking Manafort to the Kremlin or at least pro-Kremlin oligarchs in Ukraine.
The SBU's History of Fakes and Lies, Including Obfuscating Foreign Mercs in the Donbass, Ukrainian Army BUKs in Range of MH17 on 07/14/2014 and the 'Dirty Bomb' Hoax
Other examples of Kiev's state-sanctioned lies include StopFake.org's claim that a crowd in Donetsk was shouting, 'Get to work!' in Russian instead of 'Blackwater!' when confronted by armed individuals suspected of being foreign mercenaries in March 2014 -- armed men who refused to speak either Russian nor Ukrainian on camera. Then there's the dismissal by Aric Toler of Bellingcat as a 'flub' Kiev getting caught in the immediate aftermath of the MH17 shoot down trying to pose Ukrainian Army BUK312 and other UAF missile launchers as THE Russian BUK which allegedly brought down the Malaysian Airliner (which is related to the total failure of the Ukrainian regime to produce credible alibis with documentation for the locations of Ukraine's SAM launchers on July 17, 2014). Kiev also pushed the preposterous story to the UK Times in 2015 that the Russian backed Donbass militia were building a 'dirty bomb' to detonate and blame on the Ukrainian government using old radioactive trash from the Chernobyl disaster. But because Joel Harding views himself as an unofficial information warrior for the Ukrainians resisting 'Russian aggression', none of these Ukrainian lies or fakes are relevant to him.
Then there were the nameless, faceless 'NATO country intelligence sources' feeding stories about alleged KGB kompromat on Mr. Trump to Newsweek's Kurt Eichenwald. Might some of those intelligence officers have worked directly with the SBU? And was it a present or former SBU officer who told ex-NSA analyst John R. Schindler that the son of acting Trump National Security Adviser Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn accepted payments from RT or any other Russian taxpayer supported source -- without presenting any evidence to support this claim?
Under POTUS Trump and AG Sessions, the FARA Investigations Are Coming Alright:
But for the Neocon GCC Firsters @PropOrNot Would Consider Allies
If Harding were official and paid, he'd have to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), as would Andrew Weisburd, whose work with Israeli nationals involved in the 'Internet Haganah' project to harass and defame pro-Palestinian activists as terrorists has come under considerable scrutiny from Wikispooks. As we've previously reported about Mr. Weisburd, who has been prominently promoted by the War on the Rocks website of late, in his Daily Beast story about alleged Russian spread disinfo surrounding the Incirlik Air Base last summer, not ONCE did Weisburd mention that the Turkish government had cut off electrical power to the American base for a week. That isn't just sloppy or lazy journalism, that's deliberate disinformation to steer Daily Beast readers attention away from Washington's problems with an increasingly dictatorial and Islamist NATO ally and towards the Russians -- a slick Atlanticist version of the government influenced if not necessarily directed disinfo Weisburd accuses Moscow of pushing on Americans.
At any rate, those pushing the 'Russian agents and dupes' everywhere narrative the most should be ready for turnabout and intense scrutiny of their own ties to foreign governments, particularly those like Saudi Arabia or Qatar supportive of the Syrian jihadist cause and connected to Islamist front organizations such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR). The subtext of Bloomberg News reporter (and noted neocon supporter of the 'moderate' al-Qaeda allied Syria jihadists) Eli Lake's latest article fearing 'Trump's Coming Witch Hunt Against Political Islam' is that pro-Syria jihadi think tanks could face greater scrutiny for their ties to Riyadh, Doha and Ankara.
That in turn, could spill over into U.S. Justice Department/FBI investigations of more 'respectable' think tanks such as the Brookings Institute, which maintains its Doha branch, and the Eliot Higgins/Bellingcat-funding NATO propaganda attack dog the Atlantic Council. The Atlantic Council has accepted millions in donations from Mideast governments with a vested stake in the U.S. saving their jihadi proxies now losing the war in Syria. Not coincidentally, Eliot Higgins has proven to be extremely reluctant to geolocate or investigate from his couch in Leicester, England Saudi air strikes that killed scores of Yemeni civilians in the poorest country in the Arab world.
The Abundant Fantasy Life of Carbondale, IL Based Loser Andrew Aron Weisburd
— (((aweisburd))) (@webradius) November 30, 2016
There's an old expression -- those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks. It's one Msrs. Weisburd and Harding, as well as their promoters at War on the Rocks would do well to heed. As it stands, they've given the alternative media and any private investigators the potential litigants against @PropOrNot may hire -- plenty of motivation to dig into their potential relationships with governments -- both here and abroad. In the new era of American nationalism and anti-globalism that's rising, red blooded Americans are not going to be intimidated by a bunch of anonymous pissant propagandists, whether they work for Soros/Media Matters in Washington or the failing, increasingly hated by Ukrainians kleptocracy in Kiev.
— Max Black (@MaxBlack777) November 25, 2016